Posts by The Quiet One

to paraphrase, it's basically suggesting that i stop replying to threads with people who i think are talking with 'insanity' in them, and to leave them alone... i've got no idea what he/she is referring to, and they haven't posted at all.

weird....

The Quiet One

To paraphrase, it's basically suggesting that I stop replying to threads with people who I think are talking with 'insanity' in them, and to leave them alone..

I've got no idea what he/she is referring to, and they haven't posted at all. Weird...

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NEW BIBLE

by The Searcher in

the following is part of an email from a retired district overseer in the states.

(source private).

"the new bible will be released at the agm and i understand only two versions will be printed from now on.

The Quiet One

"Malawi: After Davide began to study with Jehovah's Witnesses, members of a local Baptist organization went into his home and took back the Bible that they had given to him. Therefore, the release of the New World Translation in Chichewa was a dream come true for Davide.
Since Bibles are so expensive in Malawi, Davide had wondered how he could ever obtain another one. But when he was given a copy of the New World Translation, he said: "Now I have a better Bible than I used to have!"

...."To accomplish that aim, Jehovah's Witnesses have published over 175 million copies of the New World Translation."

http://www.jw.org/en/news/by-region/world/nwt-bible-mother-tongue/

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jwfacts or jwinterpretations?

by slimboyfat in

jw
friends

jwfacts is a great website, but in view of the fact that "there are no facts, only interpretations", as nietzsche said, should the website be renamed jwinterpretations instead?

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The Quiet One

"There are no facts in isolation from interpretation, that's the point ." -- Is it a fact that you exist, or merely an interpretation on the part of the members of this forum and anyone who reads this? Or maybe we're all just butterflies dreaming we are human.. *heads off to find straight jacket*

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jwfacts or jwinterpretations?

by slimboyfat in

jw
friends

jwfacts is a great website, but in view of the fact that "there are no facts, only interpretations", as nietzsche said, should the website be renamed jwinterpretations instead?

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The Quiet One

" Such as from the point of view of the JW who is happy in his beliefs, and finds them agreeable in shaping his life? Are not those the 'facts' of JWs to him? " -- That is his view, which he has the right to hold, and his view of the facts (of the Watchtowers printed teachings) may be that Jw's are correct. To Paul Grundy and many who view his site, the facts of what has been said by the Watchtower and its contradicting of itself, undeniably point to a different conclusion. If, today, I say that my full birth name was Zod and tomorrow I claim my full birth name was Kal-el, and I claim to be the only person on earth who tells the absolute and undeniable truth.. What do these facts indicate? (remember Millions now Living Will Never Die) I have to go now, have a good evening.

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jwfacts or jwinterpretations?

by slimboyfat in

jw
friends

jwfacts is a great website, but in view of the fact that "there are no facts, only interpretations", as nietzsche said, should the website be renamed jwinterpretations instead?

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The Quiet One

Your OP said:"should the website be renamed jwinterpretations instead?" On page 3 you said: "I think it's a good name too, and I'm not suggesting Paul change it." --Putting these posts together would have made your point a little clearer early on. Though I fail to see why you targeted a site which is made up almost entirely of quotes and statistics. On which part of the site does he make a statement that is clearly open to interpretation, meaning a viewpoint without solid facts (or evidence) to back it up?

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jwfacts or jwinterpretations?

by slimboyfat in

jw
friends

jwfacts is a great website, but in view of the fact that "there are no facts, only interpretations", as nietzsche said, should the website be renamed jwinterpretations instead?

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The Quiet One

SBF: You started a thread titled 'jwfacts or jwinterpretations' so that people would react and defend the site.. whereas you could have mentioned that you think it's a great site AND are not criticising the name or suggesting it should be changed, in your OP. Thats why I used the term 'inflammatory', you could have just used a different title, something like 'witnesses are wrong: fact or interpretation?', as I have already said. You use the name to get attention and then you admitted its a good site with a good name. What claim are you making exactly? At best you seem to be attempting some kind of pseudo-intellectual discussion along the lines of 'do absolute facts exist?'.. In which case my reply would be no, but.. in a court case the evidence is built up until the 'facts' are established, as far as it is possible, from the available evidence. Doctors treat patients from the available evidence. If you would like to assert that there are no such thing as facts, then there can be no medical science or legal justice system that protect people/save lives on many occasions. When an organisation makes absolute claims of being 'gods only mouthpiece, have always spoken the Truth etc.' and there are many articles of their own that contradict such claims.. The facts can be established quite clearly and the reader can make their own conclusion. Let's move this forward: A fact is something known to be true.. Which statements on Jwfacts are false in your view?

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jwfacts or jwinterpretations?

by slimboyfat in

jw
friends

jwfacts is a great website, but in view of the fact that "there are no facts, only interpretations", as nietzsche said, should the website be renamed jwinterpretations instead?

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The Quiet One

The OP: "in view of the fact that 'there are no facts.." -- Maybe take a bit more time to plan out your 1st post in future, especially if you are using such an inflammatory thread title.

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jwfacts or jwinterpretations?

by slimboyfat in

jw
friends

jwfacts is a great website, but in view of the fact that "there are no facts, only interpretations", as nietzsche said, should the website be renamed jwinterpretations instead?

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The Quiet One

If you don't believe in the existence of facts (as indicated in the OP), and you are not suggesting that he should change the name from Jwfacts.. In what way is this thread productive? A more useful question might be: Do facts exist, how can we know something to be true? Of course, that wouldn't have been as attention-seeking, would it..